Re: Other Definitions - Raw Data

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From: Richard Knapp (richfk_at_attglobal.net)
Date: Fri Oct 18 2002 - 11:26:20 CEST


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From: "Richard Knapp" <richfk_at_attglobal.net>
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On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:32:26 -0600, P A Hill & E V Goodall wrote:

> Richard Knapp wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 06:23:58 +1000, Peter MATTHEWS wrote:
> >
> >
> >>===================================================================================
> >>Field data The original data and sketches recorded in the field, e.g.
> >>paper-based, or images thereof, or data still stored and observable in
> >>an instrument.
> >>===================================================================================
> >
> >
> >>========================================================================
> >>Raw data Field data when converted unchanged into character-based,
> >> machine-readable form, or downloaded from an instrument.
> >>========================================================================
> > Are you considering JPG/GIF/etc to be a character-based, machine-readable
> > form?
>
> The Field Data already says "images thereof". No I think it is way to
> pedantic to claim JPG is character based. Do you have a suggestion for a
> away to simply capture the idea? Is maybe "text based" a better phrase?

Hmmm... No, I don't think so.

The question is how do I scan in a sketch or save an image of my Field
data without it becoming Raw data, even though it is not being converted
to CBMR form? The paper sketch is Field data, so what is a scanned sketch?

> I see that the XML web site (http://www.w3.org/XML/) opens with the phrase:
> "Extensible Markup Language (XML) is a simple, very flexible text format..."

True, but XML is only used to reference images in their native format, not
contain that data. There is a Binary XML push on but I don't think that's
where CaveXML is going.

> But maybe Richard is bringing up a possible confusion.
>
> The original book or the data in the instrument is field data, but if you
> copy a book (on a scanner) and send someone the image it is still "field
> data", but if you electronically copy whatever the instrument spits out it
> has moved to "raw data". But this actually makes sense to me now that the
> I have clarified that these definitions don't cover format, because the....

Yes, but the Raw data definition specifies a format: character-based,
machine-readable.


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